Do explain your answers answers much as you can. Like which of the ones were proved right/wrong , how did it come to be .etc.etc.
Nothing proven. Much documentary about it though.
There’s a vine/TikTok dude that made a short about it somewhat recently in a shallow and humorous fashion.
Basically, the Jackson dad was an asshole who beat his kids. Michael being the most successful one got the worst of it, as per the documentary. Not sure if his brothers covered him and how often.
He didn’t have a childhood, he had beatings, training and concerts.
His soft-spoken voice was beaten into him, only allowed to use his full voice for singing.
His Neverland was built for that which he never had and he tried to give that to other children he felt were like him.
Whether something happened is only known by the the people involved, but odds are that unless Michael himself was molested as a child, it’s far more likely that he was deeply traumatized, cried himself to sleep and had recurring night terrors.I’ll repeat, only the people involved know what happened and they’re not talking.
If he was specifically trying to invite children with bad childhoods then it’s not actually too surprising that some of their parents would come after him.
From what I’ve read they almost certainly completely wrong. This is a blog site that lays out the timeline and evidence and all the shenanigans. It’s pretty horrible reading this. There is zero evidence and all the witnesses contradicted themselves or outright lied. A jury found him not guilty. But it was a cottage industry. It’s about greed and media malfeasance and racism and maybe just hatred of freaks.
What a horrible website they don’t let you read at all without accepting all the cookies and trackers
It’s wordpress. I use ghostery addon to avoid cookie popups (always deny) and trackers.
But i didn’t see a decline button and i can’t use addon with tor
You have to click “learn more” and then “disagree to all”. Internet is getting worse and worse without addons.
Grew up in a town near Neverland ranch in the 90s, he hosted the local little league champions team to a party there. I’m pretty sure a classmate of mine went there once. Only had nice things to say about it, but even then there were jokes and rumors.
On one hand I can see people scapegoating a successful black man, from multiple angles there may also be feelings of betrayal from the black community. On the other hand, I was also up the road from Oprah, and I never heard anything about parties for groups of minors that she hosted.
Where there’s smoke there probably fire, but racists and radicals are good at hiding smoke machines.
“Where there’s smoke there’s fire” is really interesting when the courts operate on the basis of “innocent until proven guilty”.
Anyone who says “where there’s smoke there’s fire” never did chemistry class at school. Probably the second worst idiom one can say.
He was acquitted of criminal charges while still alive from NPR. People have tried to sue his estate over alleged inappropriate behavior since his death but nothing made it to court yet. So legally no, he never molested any minors. But the fact that there were multiple allegations is concerning.
Unless there was something to gain.
My memory is fuzzy and Google-fu isn’t finding it, but wasn’t Neverland searched after he passed and they found lewd photos of children in his possession? I swear to god I remember reading something like that maybe a couple years after he passed.
“evidence found at neverland ranch” turns up a lot of results, admittedly, with far too much commentary and speculation describing “must have been used for…” rather than what may actually have been the case.
Yeah, I was trying to find something more concrete than what was showing up in Google, but I could also just be misremembering that bit.
In hindsight…
How it was all reported in the media, commented on… was pretty fucking gross. Especially since the kid who made the allegations admitted to lying.
Nothing was held back on for the court of public opinion. Police statements amounted to “We found creepy dolls that only can be used for grooming…” “He had [this] because [he’s definitely that]…” Later on the same police were caught giving adult magazines from the raid to one of the kids they claimed Michael molested… several months AFTER the raid… and then bagged the magazine for fingerprints. The way everything was handled, even if generously… we could admit that Michael was a bit of a kooky freak… the way the raid, reporting on evidence gathering (and apparent manufacturing of it) and prosecution was handled, that part of it seemed straight up corrupt.
There was always a tinge of ick about it all.
At best, Michael was a deeply damaged person who did whatever he could to cope with the loss of his childhood and… we’ll never know what truly happened at the Ranch.
Nothing ever proven. He was weird, he had issues with boundaries and felt like a child himself. He never hid the fact that he slept in the same bed with these children and thought it’s just a very normal thing (he mentioned it in an interview that was also shown in Leaving Neverland I think). Maybe he did some things with them that he also thought was normal like, you know, children discovering themselves, playing doctor and stuff. Not good at all. But from his perspective kinda innocent games. Just a theory about his intent and no excuse of course. If anything happened anyways.
I was always a big fan of his music and general style and still am but I think it is possible some things happened behind the scenes because he was just a very broken person. And later I felt he had this “too good to be true” vibe to him.
There are also rumors he was gay and that fucked him up even more because he had to hide it (like pretty much everyone back then).
