I‘m a little shocked rn. I am using fluffychat on ios since my legacy iphone is still working and I dont want to throw it out until its done.
But this happened the first time: I wrote „then I might need to take a taxi“ to someone and an installed taxi app immediately popped up via notifications saying „get off 25% today“ or something.
This freaks me out big time since it could mean every word I write on this phone gets checked by something/someone.
Anyone else? (It was literally the second I wrote the sentence)
Apple does not sell your data to a taxi app. Apple does not transmit your keystrokes.
FluffyChat, according to their privacy page, uses FireBase for Push notifications. If the message content is transmitted through them, and the taxi app uses firebase too, they could—theoretically—associate your data with both accounts and push you ads for another service on behalf of the taxi app.
It’s probably just a coincidence… and I’d be alarmed too, but I’d start blaming other companies before Apple, as they tend to horde your data for their own use, not sell it. Apple hates sharing.
Possible but statistically unlikely. No push notifications of this kind for days before despite heavy use of the phone, then the second I write this one sentence it shows.
The push provider would be one possible or siri which also suggests apps based on usage data and tried to complete my sentences in mastodon, which also irritates me.
I really think it was coincidence. But, it’s something to keep in mind.
Absolutely possible, I agree.
Funny that a lot of folks seem to disagree with my statement about statistical probability. Its like the difference between illegal and wrong. A huge amount of people I met think that things that are legal are also correct and vice versa, like slavery once was for example. It’s scary to them that things might be different/worse than they seem.
Have a good one.
Nice tangent.
I think people might find it interesting how one thing is statistically unlikely but the likely coincidence is… probably Apple spying on your keystrokes. Human pattern matching strikes again.
I dont speak sarcasm so if you were implying something you didnt write, I didnt catch it.
From experience with big tech, it is actually not unthinkable that we dont know the extent of their actions. Of course it is more likely that someone would have caught this if it is going on for some time but it also is possible that stuff is evolving, just backwards.
It is. It is also possible that out of the thousands of people who received a notification, you happened to be typing something about a similar subject and nobody else found it odd in the least bit.
Absolutely. I agree that this is possible. My point here being that it being a coincidence (in our current climate with consumer surveillance being on an all time high) isnt that likely anymore.
If you are using a third party keyboard, the company that makes it can see every keystroke. It is why Apple did not allow them for a long time.
Are you talking about a hardware keyboard or an app? I was using the on screen keyboard I used from day one.
Do you have location tracking turned on? I feel like a few times when people looked into this, it came down to the Taxi app having location sharing on (so the app can show you fairs, of course) and that the fact that you wrote something about needing a taxi is irrelevant because the app knows you are someplace where you might need a taxi.
And maybe someone nearby you who also had the same Taxi app had just booked a trip. They can correlate your location and people around you.
Are you sure you didn’t have a boomer moment and accidentally spotlight search the taxi app?
That would be my first but not impossible I guess. I rechecked. Nope, I wrote a message and this popped up. None of these for days before and now hours after despite heavy use of the phone.
Try asking someone for money 😱
Are you saying this happened to your or someone you know?
No. If someone is telling you that Apple is doing that, they are lying to you. Demand proof, because no one can provide that. Because Apple is not doing that, and if they’re telling you they are, they are lying.
While I get the initial claim that proof is necessary, your argument is self-evident as well.
Nobody can provide proof does not mean its not true, just that its not proven. Its very suspicious that I got this notification the exact second I wrote the text and no other notifications for days before and after.
It is statistically very likely that someone or something triggered this in that moment. Either on the phone through siri for example who is supposed to select apps by usage, in the chat app (unlikely because open source) or in the notification provider, as mentioned by another commenter.
Until it’s proven the data is E2E encrypted, it’s a fair assumption it can be read by a 3rd party, either now or in the future. E2EE is the only proof that matters, everything else is just a corporate “trust me bro”.
If you demand proof to state they do, you should provide proof when stating they don’t. It’s not like Apple is the most trustworthy company in the world. With big tech it’s always reasonable (definitely not certain) to assume they could be spying on your activity, and unless you are able to download your software source code, check it and compile it yourself, it’s almost impossible to tell.
Yes, of course haha. Apple is as much of a data company as Google or Facebook, but they pretend to be privacy centric. Their “privacy” reputation comes from preventing apps from tracking your and limiting their data collection.
This isn’t for the good of the consumer, it simply gives apple a monopoly on data of their customers, that they can sell for a pretty penny.
If you want a truly privacy focused iPhone you likely have to jailbreak it. Either that or get an android phone and install graphene OS or other privacy centric off shoots of android OS.
Remember, if a company owns the operating system, you’re being tracked. Happens just as much on windows and Mac. They’ll even track what you say, and give you recommendations based on that.
This is mostly not true. They are extremely privacy focused. The do keep some data on you but it is anonymized and not sold. For example, the maps app will keep the route, but randomly chops both ends off so there is not an exact start and stop. Siri sucks because it runs on devise instead of a server somewhere like all the rest. And they sell adds based on keywords in the App Store. But they do not collect and sell your data like the rest.
A big fear is a future new leadership team changing these policies for a quick cash grab. We need data privacy laws.
As funny as this is to you, many are working on getting these corpos to back down. I already handed in a privacy complaint this month against apple which is currently being pursued by the State Office for Data Protection Supervision (a machine translated this).
If this is actually something we can prove somehow, we‘re probably putting a new record for class action lawsuits in the guinness book.
Had similar experiences. Check my post history. I got shit on by the apple community tho.
I‘m not seeing any posts that suggest you were in a similar situation. Feel free to send a link to the post.
I think they’re referring to this https://lemmy.world/post/9384633
Though from my reading of it it seems like they got a pretty clear explanation on the top post about what was going on, it doesn’t sound like OP’s situation.
I’m very anti-apple, but PeroBasta’s post doesn’t seem like apple is doing anything weird.
Thats why I didnt see it. The post for some reason didnt show on my instance and then got loaded in between. Lemmy and federation… anyway, I also recognized this recently and my wife actually changed a setting while I was driving and since it disappeared.
