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    Teaching.

    College degree mandatory, graduate degree preferred.

    Yearly continuing education costs.

    Out of pocket expenses for classroom materials.

    Sometimes providing food for kids who don’t have it.

    Famously low salaries and very long hours.

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        It creates:

        • Statistically, a constantly desperate hand-to-mouth workforce that must depend on employers to sustain their existence.
        • Armed forces signup incentives.
        • Easily-swayed consumers of products and services. (Run by those with access to nepotism and/or education, naturally.)
        • And easily manipulated voters.

        Underfunding education and having people basically born into debt isn’t a neglectful oversight, it’s a deliberate strategy.

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        You maybe missed the sarcasm mark, but I admire your optimism that we’d all get the joke.

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          Surely people on the internet are fair and reasonable, right? There couldn’t possibly be a downside to being sarcastic over posts?

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      Ruling class is creating a disincentive for teachers

      I am sure they think ai can do the job better.

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        They’ve been paying teachers shit for way longer than AI has been around. AI can’t do much of anything better than people though.

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        I am sure they think ai can do the job better.

        No, they are convinced that the church will do the job better. (Better defined as producing a more compliant and conservative work force.)

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        Oh longer than that. Look at what party leads in wanting to defund education but fund private paid education. The same party who is voted in by the uneducated, who famously are lacking in critical thinking and reasoning skills.

        It’s in their best interest to keep a low educated population who happily go to work and believe what they’re told.

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      As a European, could you explain College degree, graduate, post graduate, etc. ? We have Bachelor’s and Master’s degree here, I thought we got that from you?

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      Teachers are horrendously underpaid, but they need to stop complaining about the “hours”. It rings disingenuous to most who know the job.

      Unless they are taking afterschool roles they work generally 8-3:00 with a potentially a few hours of work after for grading and lesson planning. This is along with numerous holidays / admin days during the school year.

      I say this knowing personally a few teachers who complain about hours, and it seems to be a cultural thing not based in their reported real experiences.

      The salary is shit, at least for non-senior roles in my state, but that is not a lot of hours relative to the average wage earner.

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        You couldn’t be more wrong.

        All my teacher friends wind up working 10 hour days on average.

        They work during breaks.

        They work during summer.

        Good teachers don’t just show up for classroom time then disappear.

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          Then factor in the hours you have to spend at a second job because your main job doesn’t pay a living wage.

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          I know two teachers personally. This is not the case in my discussions with them and others. Maybe you can enlighten me on what does take 10 hours of time daily?

          From speaking them they are absolutely not working from 8:0am - 6:00pm on every day.

          Lesson plans are inherited from prior teachers and … yes continuously updated during the year but not at a major time cost every day. Grading takes a few hours for one day either on the weekend or in the evening.

          And yes they complain about it constantly… it seems more a cultural thing. They also complain about other teachers complaining 🤣

          I’m not touching the issue of summers off because yes that is a different thing, and yes it’s quite hard for them to get real employment.

          Again salaries should be higher and support teachers not assuming they can work in the summer… but why conflate this with the daily hours ( which are frankly good as stated by those who I know in the profession as a reason they like and took the job)

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        Perhaps you misunderstand.

        The hours are very high and the classroom time is only a small part of it.

        The billed hours are extraordinarily low. :D

        Warm and fuzzy feelings of inspiring the next generation are supposed to stand-in for actual wages in the USA.

        Also better have plans to fill in that summer gap. I’m sure it’s not fun vaycay time for teachers like it is for a lot of the students.