https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/6879/a-number-one-egg-bread/

There’s also cake that uses yeast/leavening:

https://www.allrecipes.com/recipe/215136/drozdzowka-polish-yeast-plum-cake/

So I’m pretty sure the ingredient angle is out, unless you want to go by proportion of sugar/flour/whatever, which is a much more involved discussion, but IMO, will also be a fruitless one…

I don’t think ingredients are the dividing line here between cakes/breads, IMO, it might be texture/consistency of the loaf, but even that’s a hard sell. There are some very dense breads and some very airy cakes.

I’m more leaning towards “cake” being a label we put on bread products when we deem it appropriate.

The fact that a lot of this was defined by medieval standards, where people did some pretty strange things, especially with naming, IMO, is the root of the problem. Today, as we create new things we have specific terms for them that defines that thing and limits on what the thing is and isn’t. A lot of scientific naming has been refined in the last century because of the bad/inaccurate naming of things, mainly because they were named and defined well before we had the technology to properly understand what we were looking at.

Culinary arts, which can be scientific, but the naming certainly isn’t, is not an exact science. If you take either of the above recipes and add an extra quarter cup of flour or something to either, it probably won’t ruin the product. It might make it taste different than intended, but probably not ruined.

In all the difference between cake and bread is blurry at best. At worst, cake is just a specific type of bread product, which is defined fairly loosely by how we feel about it.

As a related fact, muffins and cupcakes have been in a war for which one is better for you. Cupcakes can have fewer calories, but muffins seem to have better marketing, so people feel like they’re better/more healthy, than eating cupcakes.

I dunno, I’m just some guy.

Egg bread exists.

What’s your argument about eggs now?

Welcome to the internet.

Have a look around.

This has never been forbidden.

No apology needed. No offense taken.

I know that text replies, especially terse ones can be interpreted in many ways. Often I tend to be rather verbose to get my point across accurately. Some then complain about the verbosity of my replies.

It’s a struggle to find the right amount of terse while being verbose enough to not be misunderstood.

I usually want whatever is best for the majority. I’m done college, and I paid my student loans, I’ll vote for student loan forgiveness and a restructuring of that system so others don’t have to go through what I did.

I’m pretty healthy and rarely need hospitals but universal healthcare is something that everyone should have.

I would also vote for UBI, though I would get no benefit from it, as I’ve been employed pretty much non-stop since I left college.

I would also vote to raise the minimum wage, though my salary is significantly amount the minimums.

My principles are in line with what most people would consider to be the greater good for all people. I believe in true equality, and I don’t feel like that’s what we have, some people just aren’t given the same basic rights, especially in America with roe v. Wade being overturned. Bodily autonomy and the right to love, and marry whomever you want. I don’t believe in lowering the bar to give the illusion of things being “fair”, eg, allowing people who are otherwise mentally or physically incapable of doing a job, to do the job just because they’re a particular race, gender, or something else (making it more about who they are than whether they’re the best fit for a job).

I don’t think I need any convincing to vote for what’s good for someone else.

Why? How does knowing how politics worked before I could vote, help me as a voter today?

I understand enough about politics to cast my vote and beyond the act of voting, I generally don’t follow politics. I vote based on party platforms (what they intend to do) and the likelihood of those things happening. Eg, if a party was to say that they’ll make everyone rich, I would consider that statement to be delusional, unrealistic and not something that could be fulfilled even if that party was voted in. This is an extreme example, but I think you get my meaning.

Beyond doing my due diligence in figuring out who I want to vote for, and then voting for that party… What else do I realistically need?

My district always elects the same party anyways, whether I vote for them or not. I’ve landed in a gerrymandered location and that party basically always wins, but I still vote regardless.

IMO, I shouldn’t need to take a political history course to be considered to be a responsible voter.

You think politics are in my control in any way, shape, or form? They’ve gerrymandered my vote to irrelevance.

I still vote, I look at the platforms and vote for whomever I feel serves my interests the most, not that the party’s platform means jack or shit. They’re all just pandering to whatever they know you want to hear, and once they get into power, they do whatever the hell they want.

My district leans a particular way, and whether I vote with them, or against them, the same party is elected to govern. I’d say my vote is pretty useless in that context.

I was too young to vote, pre-9/11, and had even less interest in politics than I do now. I’ve vaguely followed along since I got registered to vote when I got old enough to do so, but it’s not like learning about what happened before I was registered to vote will help me in any way. I make the best choice based on the information that is available, and in the end, it doesn’t even matter.

Alright, just stay off my lawn and we’re cool.

Yeah, what’s this fucker on about? I’m an adult that doesn’t even get carded at the liquor store anymore, I fucking swear whenever I damn well please and as often as I give a shit to. Nothing wrong with some cursing, especially at those young fucks that won’t stay off my goddamned lawn. Shit, they’re at it again.

Brb, gotta yell at some asshole kids.

I was alive for 9/11 and I don’t know the difference.

I don’t care for politics.

I’m generally more of a Debian user, when I use Linux at least, so anything red hat based doesn’t even occur to me to recommend. I generally don’t get involved in distro discussions though.

My main interaction with Linux is Ubuntu server, and that’s where my knowledge generally is. I can’t really fix issues in redhat, so if someone is using it, I’m mostly lost on how to fix it.

There’s enough difference in how redhat works compared to Debian distributions that I would need to do a lot of work to understand what’s happening and fix any problems.

I dunno if I’d say any distro of Linux is really beginner friendly.

It takes quite a bit of learning the ins and outs of operating systems before Linux makes sense in any capacity.

If you’re just looking to run a few basic apps like discord/slack/teams/zoom, and run a browser, then sure, just about every distro can do that without trouble, and can be configured to be as “friendly” as Windows, with a few exceptions.

But anybody who wants to do intermediate/advanced stuff with little to no prior Linux knowledge? I’m not sure any distro is much easier than others. Again, with a few exceptions.

The exceptions are distros that are almost intentionally difficult to use, or that require a high level of competency with Linux before you can attempt to use it.

There’s always a learning curve, that learning curve is pretty much always pretty steep.

I’ve been using Linux for dedicated servers for a while and I don’t use Linux as a desktop environment, in no small part because despite having a fairly high level of competency with Linux, I don’t feel like I know enough to make Linux work for me instead of the other way around.

This is the main reason why I quit Facebook and other services. Anytime you access them from mobile via a web browser it corners you into a “download our app” page. Facebook started doing it with messenger and I knew I had to get out.

I’m not giving Zuckerberg that level of access to my data.

Any time I’ve ventured into 4chan, it’s mainly been for the lulz. I never gained any knowledge that could be called “useful” from the experience.

IDK, it doesn’t seem like a worthwhile way to spend your time, especially if you’re looking to gain something from it.

I mean, if you’re bored and just want to get some cheap laughs or something, I guess it’s useful, but actual factual information? Not so much.

I have several domain names, some have websites that I haven’t touched in years, some have email that I equally haven’t touched in years, and some are just ideas that I never followed through on.

I blog about network stuff, because computer networking is a passion of mine, and I get some okay views on it. Some of the posts are about pretty obscure stuff.

I’ve been meaning to create a website about good network design geared at home users, and how to make their home network suck less. Strategies on how to run ethernet, whether easy mode or hard mode and the benefits of each, even a subsection on options for renters to do it. Explanations on why your wifi probably sucks and how to improve the situation, etc. Wiki style.

It’s a lot of writing and I know a lot about the subject matter, so each article would have a companion deep dive article so you can go deeper into why this or that affects your wifi or home network in the way that it does… Etc. But also have practical tips to avoid problems in the main article. It’s an entire concept that I feel like the internet needs, but I have yet to find anyone publishing that kind of content.

Sure, you can get a bunch of technical detail on Wikipedia, but it doesn’t really explain the real world consequences of things, just how they work. That’s fine if you have an understanding of how things interact, but if you’re new, it’s just a confusing mess.

I just want to educate people into building better home networks, spending more (and less) money and why you would want to do that, where and when… How to use planning software, etc. Basically, I want to take the entirety of my wireless knowledge and put it out there for anyone to browse and learn from.

And I’ll do it again.