The thing with Ubuntu / Canonical isn’t that it doesn’t work, it is that they’ve bad policies and by using their stuff you’re making yourself vulnerable to something akin to what happened with VMWare ESXi or with CentOS licensing - they may change their mind at some point and you’ll be left with a pile of machines and little to no time to move to other solution.

For starters Ubuntu is the only serious and corporate-backed distribution to ever release a major version on the website and have the ISO installer broken for a few days.

Ubuntu’s kernel is also a dumpster fire of hacks waiting for someone upstream to implement things properly so they can backport them and ditch their own implementations. We’ve seen this multiple times, shiftfs vs VFS idmap shifting is a great example of the issue.

Canonical has contributing to open-source for a long time, but have you heard about what happened with LXD/LXC? LXC was made with significant investments, primarily from IBM and Canonical. LXD was later developed as an independent project under the Linux Containers umbrella, also funded by Canonical. Everything seemed to be progressing well until last year when Canonical announced that LXD would no longer remain an independent project. They removed it from the Linux Containers project and brought it under in-house development.

They effectively took control of the codebase, changed repositories, relicensed previous contributions under a more restrictive license. To complicate matters, they required all contributors to sign a contract with new limitations and impositions. This shift has caused concerns, but most importantly LXD became essentially a closed-off in-house project of Canonical.

Some people may be annoyed at Snaps as well but I won’t get into that.

Will they learn how to apply padding to stuff this time?

vbox is easy until it starts saying vt-d isn’t enabled and refuses to start when it fact it is.

Maybe it can be installed in Debian 12 now without much trouble…

Yeah, all for security. I’ve been “complaining” about this for a while. :)

Tldr; Ubuntu clones a macOS feature (from 2019) that actually makes sense.

I get that a lot of people hate on GNOME too for being annoying to customise and being highly opinionated but I think that’s the key to getting the average person interested in Linux.

I agree with this ideia, however GNOME lacks desktop icons and forces people into an activities view - all stuff that said average people don’t want to deal with. GNOME isn’t already dominating the DE space, and we still have other DEs, because of their poor decisions based on a “vision” that revolves around reinventing the wheel ever 2 years or so.

and yeah having access to programs like the MS apps is important but it’s not like that has to come before having an appealing desktop

This is one of the major hurdles with Linux desktop and the Steam Deck just confirmed it. People like the ones you’re talking about require software, be it Adobe, MS Office, Autodesk or some other and without it there’s no way they’re going to move. Alternatives may work for some isolated people but if you’re collaborating with people that expect those proprietary formats it won’t just work out.

You can’t just go it alone with free software when all your colleagues expect you to use proprietary tools

Yeah that’s my point.

So your take is that instead of trying to make Windows binaries run Linux it would be way easier to just get macOS binaries because it is all BSD. That’s an interesting take indeed.

Dead like any other Linux distro that is mainly a desktop.

The thoughtful, capable, and ethical replacement for Windows and macOS comes with a carefully considered set of apps that cater to everyday needs

Here’s the issue, elementary OS is made for regular people who want a computer that works, an attempt at replicating macOS, and that same group of people need proprietary software like MS Office that isn’t available under Linux. The alternatives won’t cut it for people once they’ve to collaborate with other who use the proprietary stuff.

elementary OS is essentially a misguided marketing exercise where the founders / company failed to study and understand their target market.

I don’t really get why the KDE guys still insist on this atrocious lack of padding / spacing between UI elements. Even Microsoft figured this out by now.

Finally a decent Linux tablet that can actually replace many laptops. Only thing is that it would’ve been great with an i3-N300.

While I don’t disagree with you about the potential of those alternatives they won’t cut it for the average graphic designer… usually not due to the lack of features but most likely because of the network effects / dominant position that Adobe holds over their field. People who need to collaborate with others and are pressured to get stuff done can’t afford the slightest compatibility issue.

The way to get Linux more appealing is to get proprietary software makers, like Adobe, Microsoft (Office), you know the actual things people need to do their job, to make software for Linux. Steam Deck is a good example of this, it works because Steam ported the games to Linux…

+1, this is poised to create issues and potentially ruin a few relationships.

OP’s sister is used to Apple services and not even other payed cloud services come close to the level of integration Apple provides. It just works, is a real thing inside the Apple ecosystem and anything the OP might get will be inferior and she will complain.

On the day the service is down or something doesn’t work / some update breaks the sync or wtv she’ll just be there with an “entitled atitude” pressuring the OP to fix things.

This is like one of those situations where you have a LOT of work setting up and managing something and people will never recognize the work, help, split the bill or be patient. People are so expected tech to “just click a button” and everything just works and is free that they aren’t even able to understand the complexity of what’s behind it all and the amount of work it is required to get “a simple file sync” to work.

Expect bugs because NC is a pile of crap. She will get very annoyed, not even other payed cloud services come close to the level of integration Apple provides.

I sad that cutefish as a desktop experience is as dead as any other distro because unless we get proprietary software makers (Adobe, Microsoft, Autodesk etc) - things that most computer users want - making software for Linux the desktop won’t go anywhere.

The funny part is that my comment was removed by a mod 😂

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Perfection :D

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