• jfx@discuss.tchncs.de
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    7 months ago

    How on earth can people stand using Windows full time? Everything I’m on a Microsoft product I feel claustrophobic!

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      Uh, most apps are still for Windows. That’s why so many people use it.

      If you tell someone to use an alternative OS, but then they are left on their own to run alternative versions of apps that don’t work the same, forced to give up features they are use to, or run dozens of different programs through Wine or Proton or emulation or virtualization or whatever, JUST BECAUSE “Microsoft bad”, they’re going to laugh at you and go right back to Windows.

      It’s taken Linux 30(?) years to make it to 4%, and a lot of that is recent because of games. It’s still a niche platform.

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        Maybe. But this does not change the fact that managing Windows is so much pain even if some of clients I manage computers for have Windows because of the software like Adobe, I think every day how good it would be to get rid of it.

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        Create an ‘average user’ friendly OS. Similar to ElementaryOS but more easier.

        The GUI is elegant and its easy to download apps(applications).

        For medium to heavy users, have a developer or advance mode.

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          PopOS, Mint, Ubuntu. All have that mission.

          Honestly I’m at a bit of a loss what people think needs to become simpler.

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            The people hating on it are either shills or people that tried linux 10 years ago and it wouldn’t run their game so they’ll talk shit. I’ve been over a year now full time linux and it plays all the games I have and have gotten. I’m really impressed with how much better it’s gotten over the past few years.

            I run pop os with AMD hardware on wayland.

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      Most people are not really using the OS. All they do is starting the webbrowser and that’s it. They need input & sound from the OS, but that’s it.

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      Stuff just works on windows, I have a proxmox box with some Linux vms to run containers and I’ve tried several times over the last 20 years to move to Linux on my main pc but there are just too many faffy bits.

      I really dislike what windows has become, it’s bloat ware that’s getting worse and worse, but I begrudgingly use it as I can be productive, the moment I can be as productive in Linux I’m off of windows, but even simple things like drivers are often not as good, lots of commercial software has barebones or no Linux support, there are many different package managers (on one hand great) but some have permission problems due to sandboxing when you need something like your IDE to have access to the dotnet package, also as a developer building apps/libs for Linux is a nightmare.

      For example if I make an app for Windows I build a single binary, same for mac os, for Linux it’s the Wild west, varying versions of glibc various versions of gtk and that’s the simpler stuff.

      Anyway I REALLY WANT to like Linux and move away from windows to it, but every time I try its hours/days of hoop jumping before I just end up going back to windows and waiting for windows to annoy me so much I try again.

      (just to be clear the annoyances I have with windows are it’s constant ad/bloat ware, it’s segregation of settings and duplication of things, it constantly updating and forcing you to turn off all their nonsense AGAIN)

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      I use both. Sadly, I have lots of software that doesn’t work (or works pretty bad) on Linux. I love Linux, but there’s no denying it can be frustrated, specially if your hardware doesn’t support it, and that applies to too many people who has no saying in the hardware they use.

      So in what world? Corporate world, science, CAD modelling…

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        There is a big misunderstanding in people’s mind. LInux claims to run on pretty much every system (and it does ofc), but people take it as in every device and drivers is supposed to run flawlessly. I bought a 200 euros thinkpad knowing lenovo supported Linux directly, and I’m more satisfied with it than my 3000 euros macbook pro. In fact I havent opened my work one for 6 months+ lol

        Mandatory I use arch btw

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          Current distros doesn’t support many hardware platform, despite being very well funded. Compared to OpenBSD. (NetBSD is too much, right? and it is not really usable.)

          Fedora: Only run on amd64, arm64, arm, ppc64le, s390x

          Debian: i386, amd64, arm64, arm, ppc64le, mips64le, s390x, riscv64 (testing).

          Alpine: same as Debian but no MIPS support

          Add your own here.

          There isn’t sparc64 support at all!

          https://www.openbsd.org/sparc64.html The other architectures that OpenBSD supports have benefited because some kinds of bugs are exposed more often by the 64-bit big endian nature of UltraSPARC.

          https://www.openbsd.org/want.html It is important to spread sparc64 around the development community, since it is the most strict platform for detecting non-portable or buggy code.

          OpenBSD: alpha, amd64, arm64, armv7, hppa, i386, landisk, loongson, luna88k, macppc, octeon, powerpc64, riscv64, sparc64 (all equally supported except Alpha)

          (VAX is discontinued after 6.9)

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        I use a Windows 10 virtual machine for this purpose and run Linux on my bare metal hardware. And if I absolutely have to use Windows, I can boot the virtual machine, use Windows, and then shut it back down again until I need it again.

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          I mean, that’s what I do, do you think that’s feasible for everyone? No. Not everyone is willing to go through that much hassle.