• metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub
    29·
    5 months ago

    What a coincidence, I’m drinking mead and installing Gentoo. Currently compiling gcc, always takes forever, maybe I should’ve gone with the recompiled binary for that one lol.

    No ragrets.

    • null@slrpnk.net
      193·
      5 months ago

      You’ll never believe this but I’m chugging absynth and installing Red Star OS.

    • gerdesj@lemmy.mlEnglish
      5·
      5 months ago

      mead

      Do you really drink a honey based brew?

      There is almost certainly a binary version of gcc in Gentoo. I ran Gentoo for 20 odd years and also generally insisted on compiling everything. I recall gcc going from v3 to 4. My laptop ran for over a week on a glass table with a prop to keep the fan vent unobstructed.

      I probably should have learned back then that I didn’t really understand exactly how the toolchain worked and how to get from ebuilds to binary code really works. I’m a sysadmin and not a programmer.

      With hindsight, I suggest that you pick your fights with care. Use the bin versions of entire packages where available and enjoy the flexibility of USE when it will make a difference.

      gcc is not the biggest lump you will compile but it does take a while. It was rather slower 20 years ago.

      • metallic_z3r0@infosec.pub
        4·
        5 months ago

        Yep, I drink mead, i.e. honey wine. It’s really good, doesn’t give me as much of a headache as beer these days. Sometimes it’s too sweet, I haven’t found a good dry one around here though.

        I played around with Gentoo a few years ago, got it working but then got annoyed with some binaries taking too long. Wanted to build a machine I couldn’t hack though, and now there’s a repo with precompiled bins if you ask portage nicely, so I figured I’d give it a shot again. Maybe it was the mead but I forgot to do that for gcc though. oops

  • naonintendois@programming.dev
    23·
    5 months ago

    You having regrets depends on your expectations. If you want a very stable system with little maintenance then you’ll be happy. Packages will be older but that’s what makes it easy to keep stable.

    I’m not personally a fan of vanilla Debian because the stable versions are a bit too outdated for the things I like to work with. I do use Debian derivatives though the LTS versions.

    • methodicalaspect@midwest.socialEnglish
      1·
      5 months ago

      If you’re using Debian as a daily driver you can always use a Flatpak if you need a newer version than what’s available in the repos. The foundation is solid, though, and that’s what matters - it’s one of the things that keeps bringing me back to Debian for office workstation use.

      • rotopenguin@infosec.pubEnglish
        3·
        5 months ago

        You can also use backports for some of the more “system entangled software” that cannot be packaged in a flatpak. Or, you can skip ahead to “Trixie” unstable. It has been great for me for the last several months. It’s arguably more stable than what Ubuntu calls an LTS.

  • fury@lemmy.world
    21·
    5 months ago

    Regrets aplenty after some of the things I’ve drank, but none of them are about Debian.

  • GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    9·
    5 months ago

    If you need new drivers then Debian is not the easiest distro. I love Debian but I do occasionally consider distro-hopping again to get some complex things working (like ROCm).

    I do think Debian is an excellent starting place, though. If it suits you, great! If not, you’ll have a better idea of what you need to look for going forward. Hopping distros isn’t the end of the world, after all.

  • nomad@infosec.pub
    5·
    5 months ago

    Debian for 20 years with some formative years in Gentoo. Always went back to Debian. No regrets.

  • jjhanger@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3·
    5 months ago

    Just ran out of my local brews, Troegs Field Study IPA, so going to be cracking open some Coors Banquet soon. But I don’t think you will. I use Debian 12 with AwesomeWM and love it.

  • bigmclargehuge@lemmy.world
    3·
    5 months ago

    Main desktop runs Arch but everything else runs Debian. It’s the perfect “install and forget” system so long as you don’t need the absolute bleeding edge packages.