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    Reminder that poor Gary Bowser was jailed for a year and owes 30% of his income to Nintendo for the rest of his life. He uses a wheelchair and has two kids.

    It would be morally wrong to pirate all future Nintendo titles and pay the cover price to Gary’s gofundme. Please don’t do that.

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      Please don’t conflate an open effort to own your own hardware and data with a closed effort to literally sell access to copyrighted content under the table, and try to launder the profits and commit fraud. Yuzu and Bowser are not the same.

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        you mean the MiGSwitch, a device for dumping and preserving switch ROMs? I would love to have one for personal backups, and it pairs well with yuzu. Team Xecuter is credibly presumed to be the developers, so that’s likely Bowser’s current hobby.

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            Do you really believe that the last statement by yuzu is their own opinion? It really reads as it was written by a Nintendo lawyer and they just needed to sign it.

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              Yuzu has always expressed that opinion about piracy publicly. Whether they actually believe that is another matter, but it’s nothing new for them to say that.

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            Also believe his (proprietary) software would brick switches if it detected other software, though don’t quote me on that.

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      Reminder that “poor Gary” was selling pirated roms.

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      The bigger deal is that development by this team has been halted, not that it will be a little harder to find a trustworthy download of the most recent version.

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        Yep. This is more to stop the emulation of their next console than anything else. Especially considering it’s likely to be a just slightly better Switch.

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          Honestly, I’ll think more than twice before buying that thing if it really just is a Switch refresh. Not even taking into account the fact that whether it’s Yuzu or not, it’ll probably be supported by a Switch emulator in a comically short time after coming out. I’m still waiting for some insider leaks ten years from now revealing the Switch was indeed just some rebranded gaming tablet. Too many half-assed features, both on the firmware/OS side of things, but also the controller connectivity and drifting. It’s their worst console up to now. But damn, are their games fun.

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        That’s only temporary tho. One fork will emerge as the replacement everyone goes to, including the developers who were only working on Yuzu and Citra as volunteers. We know what Nintendo was sueing over, so that can probably be avoided in that fork.

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    fuck Nintendo, I’ll never support them or buy anything related to them ever again.

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      I feel like the people saying this now aren’t going to follow through and will buy future Nintendo products. If this behavior was a deal breaker for you then you would already be boycotting Nintendo.

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        Well, given that the last game I officially bought by Nintendo was Metroid Prime Dread (because I really really want that franchise to regain its former glory, same with F-Zero) and that also after a year or so of not buying anything new. Yeah I was kinda in a soft boycott already.

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        Depends on the person really. I’ve been a sailor all my life, and the only times I’ve bought games was when I bought some physical disc games for my ps4, so it really depends on the person.

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    Holy shit this thing smells so bad. The announcement reads like “Nintendo’s legal team wrote this in exchange for 1 mill smaller settlement”

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    As of right now, both Citra and Yuzu are available via Flathub!!! Get them now if you don’t have it!!!

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    Reminder that paying Nintendo money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Buy the consoles, sure, but pirate if you have to play the games.

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      The consoles are the fucking things I don’t want to buy… I’m sick of Nintendo and their “buy my console or fuck you” motto…

      I haven’t bought an Xbox since the 360 and haven’t bought a PlayStation since PS4 because I’m so sick of dropping hundreds of dollars on a console for one or two games since the parent companies are assholes and won’t have the games ported to PC. At least Sony and Microsoft got the message that you can have your console and sell the games on PC

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        The Switch runs even first party Nintendo games like dogshit on top of all that. People will say it’s the developer’s fault, to which I say Nintendo owns the fucking developer so it’s still their fault.

        Also, Nintendo is the only console company that doesn’t port to PC. The fuck are all the annoying anti-Epic Store bros when it comes time to yell at Nintendo?

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      Reminder that paying money is morally wrong and should be avoided when possible. Steal the consoles and pirate if you have to play the games.

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      It’s the other way around imo. I don’t want to pay hundreds of euros for a console (which is still just a computer) that is slower than my phone just because Nintendo puts artificial restrictions on what hardware the software they make can run on. I already have a PC that could run those games perfectly fine. Or rather, it can run those games perfectly fine, way better than a Switch actually. Unfortunately, the only way for me to play those games on my PC, without having to buy a console I don’t need, is to pirate them.

      So basically, I can either pirate the games for free to play them on my PC or I pay for a console for no other reason but to get the privilege of being able to pay for the games.

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        Very easy if it was an earlier model, although I’ve seen some of the newer modchips make soldering about as simplified as possible (but still kinda hard, it’s a tiny board to be fiddling with). I literally hacked my current switch with some aluminum foil and tape (my jig broke, I guess), and besides all that all you need is a decent microsd card and the willingness to follow directions

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      This is a hot take if I’ve ever seen one. I may disagree with this particular action but supporting companies that make games I want to play and are demonstrably fun is never morally wrong.

      The world is more complex than that.

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      This shouldn’t need to be the case; emulation is legal and has been tried by the courts in several jurisdictions.

      Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use, so the legality of emulation isn’t really “enough” in the face of even rudimentary protections.

      The nice thing about loving on a global society is that this can still be legally pursued elsewhere and we can all benefit. (Or coordinated/shared on the dark web, which can be untraceable even for those living in justifications where it might be illegal.)

      In this case, they’ll be fine. They made a LLC and didn’t take any personal liability in the settlement. They can just declare bankruptcy and fold.

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        Emulation may be legal on paper, but in the end, we are rarely ever a match for such massive corporations, and a legal system that lets them get away with outspending you on legal fees.

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        Sucks that laws like the DMCA make it illegal to bypass encryption for the sake of emulation or other fair use

        IANAL, but there are a bunch of carve outs for these purposes.

        It’s unclear how this would have actually shaken out, but probably just because Nintendo is Nintendo, it would have gone in their favor. And yuzu didn’t want to be the one to set bad precedent for any future endeavors.

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    Where does a FOSS project find $2.4M? They weren’t selling anything were they? They can’t really have that big of a war chest can they?

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      They don’t have it. It’s a limited liability company so in this way they will pay only the sum of their assets (=bankruptcy) which is lower than legal expenses against a Goliath and definitely lower than 2.4 million. I’m guessing 1000x lower than the settled amount or they wouldn’t have reason to found the LLC in first place or to settle this easy and this fast

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      My understanding is they’ve been making 30k a month from their Patreon.

      Which is also the main reason they were vulnerable to a lawsuit, because they’ve been profiting off of the emulator (which why legal by itself, is only popular enough to make money due to piracy).

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          The most recent version of Yuzu (which theoretically has the best performance) is semi-locked behind their Patreon.

          This was especially important when TotK came out, because they were making a bunch of tweaks to improve performance for that game. So people who wanted to play TotK needed to subscribe to get the best results (or build from source, I’m assuming).

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      Probably take a dim view of it when emulating current gen games.

      Also they made a ton of money off it.