• evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world
      181·
      7 months ago

      There’s really no winning as a cyclist when most people are in cars. If you stop at all stop signs, and obey they right-of-way, people will yell at you and/or try to wave you through ahead of your turn dangerously. If you do an Idaho stop (which is the safest way to approach a stop, whether it’s legal or not), people will honk and yell at you and possibly try to run you off the road.

      I used to commute by bike a lot during rush hour. If there was a lineup of cars waiting at a red-light, and I just waited in line, people in cars behind me would honk at me as if me preventing them from being one cars-length further ahead in line would somehow affect them. If I filtered forward, like I should, people would actually edge their cars over to try and block me.

      I think for the most part, it’s misplaced anger from drivers who don’t want to face the fact that they are the source of danger on roads. The worst bicycle collision is way less severe than a car crash. They also really hate when bicyclists can get anywhere faster than them, which is often the case because it shows them just how much time they waste being traffic.

    • eezeebee@lemmy.caEnglish
      611·
      7 months ago

      That’s not “for absolutely no reason”. Some cyclists make a bad name for the rest.

      Edit: Oh my goodness, you guys. I’m not saying hate for cyclists is justified, that I hate all cyclists, or that “all cyclists do x”. Some cyclists ride like they have a death wish. So do some drivers. Anyone, regardless of their vehicle, who is willing to put their life in my hands is someone I want to stay far the fuck away from.

  • xkforce@lemmy.world
    682·
    7 months ago

    “Chemicals” in food. Literally every substance, every food and people are composed of them. The common usage has bastardized the meaning and latched on to the naturalistic fallacy. Snake venom is natural. Cyanide is natural. Arsenic and Uranium are natural. Botulinum toxin is natural. Something being naturally occurring does not automatically make it good for you just as something being made in a lab does not equate to being bad for you.

    • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
      12·
      7 months ago

      Same thing with people thinking that organic food is healthier. Organic food might be good for the environment, but not necessarily the climate or your health.

      • TruthAintEasy@kbin.social
        10·
        7 months ago

        I worked in produce as a quality inspector for a couple years. Organic generally just means lower quality for higher price. No one is regulating it as far as I know, they can just skip pesticides, do everything else the same and charge more for the same product that actually cost them less to produce. We refered to it as a hillarious scam when the boss wasnt around.

      • Unmapped@lemmy.ml
        1·
        7 months ago

        Organic has less pesticides. Which is probably healthier no? I mostly buy non organic, but always get organic for certain foods like strawberries and oats since they tend to have so much pesticides used on them.

        • SorteKanin@feddit.dk
          3·
          7 months ago

          Organic has less pesticides.

          Less pesticides also means more bacteria and more bug poop. There is a reason why they use pesticides, after all.

          Even if there are trace amounts of pesticides left, you can just wash the produce, which you should always do anyway. Same reason you wash the organic produce to get rid of bug stuff…

          The trace amounts of bug poop or pesticides really makes no difference when it comes to your health.

    • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
      11·
      7 months ago

      My least favorite is “it’s processed”

      I can count the ingredients on my hands, and the “processing” is like 4 steps max.

      • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
        5·
        7 months ago

        “Unga bunga me invent new process for food. It called cooking. Make less parasites in meat. Very good.”

        “Cooking bad, garg. We no want processed food.”

      • pixelscript@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1·
        7 months ago

        A guy at a deli counter slicing cold cuts and assembling them into a sandwich is “processed food”. Using the term as a health concern marker is meaningless.

        Even Kraft Singles, the posterchild of “processed food”, famously disallowed to legally call itself “cheese” on its packaging, what is it made of? What hellish process hath humanity wrought? Cheddar cheese, sodium citrate (a mundane variety of salt), and water. That’s it.

        It’s not forbidden from being called “cheese” because it’s a bastard concoction of mad scientist chemicals that approximate cheese to ruse consumers. It’s simply cheese, literally watered down to the point that you can’t call it cheese anymore.

        All that the sodium citrate is doing in this situation is acting as a binder that helps the cheese solids hold on to the water. This action is what gives many dishes, sauces, and the like their smooth, creamy texture. But use the word for that – “emulsifier” – and suddenly people think you’re trying to poison them, because that’s a scary chemical word.

        Why does this product exist? Because it offers a unique melty texture that people appreciate in certain contexts. It’s a niche product with a niche function. Treat it like one.

        • Schmoo@slrpnk.net
          1·
          7 months ago

          I haven’t run into anyone who considers emulsifier a scary chemical word. Most people I know with any baking skill know what the word means and use egg yolks for that purpose all the time.

    • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
      5·
      7 months ago

      I really liked this post by Hank Green regarding “natural remedies”.

      tl;dw The chemicals used in chemotherapy are naturally occurring, and science uses what we know works. So when people say “you should use natural remedies”, what they really mean is, you should use something:

      • we don’t know whether it works
      • we know doesn’t work
      • we know is actively harmful

      And the first two categories aren’t necessarily bad, an Epsom salt bath can feel really nice, but don’t think it’s a replacement for proper medical science.

    • NaN@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
      4·
      7 months ago

      I love when they compare food labels from two countries but don’t notice the ingredients are the same just described in different words or with different levels of verbosity based on the local regulations.

    • Turun@feddit.de
      2·
      7 months ago

      On one hand I agree with you, the way “chemicals” are used in everyday speech differs from the text book definition.

      On the other hand, if we take our heads out of our asses and stop the "well actually"s I kinda have to agree with being against “chemicals” in food. Arsenic is naturally occurring, sure, but at what concentration? Radioactive uranium is a naturally occurring element, but I would hardly call nuclear fallout something natural.

      • xkforce@lemmy.world
        1·
        7 months ago

        Uranium doesnt need to undergo fission to be toxic. Fission also occurred naturally in the oklo nuclear reactor long ago. Uranium mined from that area is depleted in U235 and there are higher concentrations of stable isotopes derived from fission products in that area. Arsenic is found in higher concentrations in rice crops. Its found in certain soils and lakes. In certain areas in India, Fluoride can be high enough in concentration to cause bone growth abnormalities. Selenium is found in higher concentrations in the western US to the point that certain plants take it up and concentrate it further up to 2% dry weight. The plants use it as a defense against herbivory. Some trees concentrate nickel to the point that it turns their sap blue and may be a viable source of the element. i.e biomining. The plants that take up selenium also make an alkaloid called swainsonine that if ingested in high enough quantities, can cause cattle and other animals to shake themselves to death. Hence they are colloquially named locoweed i.e crazy weed. Certain plants were historically used as a form of crude birth control due to some of the compounds found in them being abortificants. Echinacea was pulled from the market as it was found to significantly increase the risk of heart attack and stroke due to its stimulant properties. Foxglove was used to develop digitalis which is a valuable heart medication but the plant itself is fairly dangerous. Metformin was derived from naturally occurring compounds that are poisonous in the concentrations they are naturally found in due to their tendency to cause severe hypoglycemia. There are TONS of plants that contain hepatotoxic compounds (cause liver damage). Green potatoes, rhubarb, raw red kidney beans, those all have substances in parts of them that can cause illness.

        The point is that nature has plenty of ways to kill. Something being “natural” is no guarantee of safety.

  • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    553·
    7 months ago

    Trans people, seriously, they just want to live their lives in peace. They’re not here to radicalise anything or to “trick” anyone. They just want to get on with their lives and be left alone.

    • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
      8·
      7 months ago

      the other replies to this comment reaaaally prove your point.

      Are people really stupid enough to think that every single trans person is a loud screeching SJW?

      Not to mention trans people are constantly under attack in most places and NEED to speak up.

      • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world
        6·
        7 months ago

        Are people really stupid enough to think that every single trans person is a loud screeching SJW?

        Even if they were so what? You have to be cynical about these things and figure out how much danger every given person represents. I am in far less danger from someone who yells loudly on Instagram compared to some proud boy marching on the street. One makes the internet kinda boring the other sets off bombs.

      • skulblaka@startrek.website
        14·
        7 months ago

        And they choose this path because LGBT folks have been getting bullied, assaulted and murdered for just existing for about as long as civilization has existed. If they don’t stand up for themselves nobody else is going to do it for them.

        The key word is “trying” - most of them are trying to live their lives largely without bothering anyone - except that “anyone” is composed of a lot of people that can’t put up with their existence. Not through any fault of the person, just because of the way they are.

        I do get what you’re saying. But it’s a half step away from deriding them for their very existence, which is disgusting. They are attempting to break the status quo in the same way the civil rights movement did.

        • rosemash@social.raincloud.dev
          110·
          7 months ago

          Edit: I won’t talk about this here.

          I am just really jaded about how people talk about certain topics on social media even though I consider myself a progressive.

          I have a sensitive spot for reddit/twitter rhetoric (very heavily emotionally skewed language isn’t helpful)

      • Ada@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
        10·
        7 months ago

        Yeah, because trans people are renowned for having lots of say in the way the media and politics present them…

    • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world
      320·
      7 months ago

      It’s similar to veganism, they yell really loud to make it known they want peace while at the sime time disturbing everyone else and expecting friendliness.

      It’s like that annoying neighbour that blasts music at full volume just because he likes it and then he goes on to say he just wants to be left alone.

      You can’t take the stage at a Rammstein concert and expect to just chill out there without getting thrown out.

        • CrowAirbrush@lemmy.world
          59·
          7 months ago

          People can do whatever they want imo, go take that rammstein stage…just be realistic about what you’re gonna get as a result.

          You feel like a woman and want to be one? Go ahead, i’d even date and or wife you if your personality is likeable i don’t care about your genitals and whatever makes you happy goes.

          Understand that not everyone is going to agree with you, stay safe and be careful. Same goes for everyone else.

          • 1ostA5tro6yne@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            22·
            7 months ago

            when the disagreement is about whether we should be allowed continue existing it’s a bit much to handwave like that, and fuck you very much for deigning to not only frame it like that but 'splain it to us like we’re children. get bent.

      • KyuubiNoKitsune@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        11·
        7 months ago

        People keep saying this, but what is expected when a minute fraction of the population has such a high rate of being murdered? What is expected when without making any fuss, legislators are constantly trying to legislate trans people out of existence, refusing healthcare, increasing the already disproportionate suicide rate, forcing them to do things that puts them in situations where the chance of being murdered is much higher.

        These sentiments come from such a place of privilege, “I don’t have this problem, why are you getting on stage to shout about this, you should expect to be discriminated against and murdered” if you don’t see anything wrong with that, you should reevaluate your morals.

      • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
        9·
        7 months ago

        1. This does not happen.

        2. Even if it was, are you really shitting on trans people for complaining about constantly being hate-crimed for sport?

    • puppy@lemmy.world
      166·
      7 months ago

      Add men to the list.

      Misandry is also extremely widespread and socially acceptable.

      IMHO both groups have bad apples. In conservative societies, women are often mistreated. In modern/contemporary societies men are often misstreated.

      • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
        81·
        7 months ago

        adult men are treated fine in modern societies, it’s boys/teenagers who are feeling increasingly out of place and are turning to misogyny as an outlet

      • whogivesashit@lemmygrad.ml
        2·
        7 months ago

        IMHO both groups have bad apples

        Oh bad people can come from anywhere, what a salient observation.

        By every important measurable standard, women are still treated worse in contemporary society. The fact you would respond with this nothing take when someone brings up misogyny is incredibly telling. Wishing well to any women unlucky enough to be in your life.

  • Shelbyeileen@lemmy.world
    391·
    7 months ago

    Furries. They’re some of the nicest people ever. I’m a cosplayer and our worlds intersect a lot. They raise more money for charity than any group as small as they are, they’re kind and accepting, and they’re wicked talented. I trust Furries before muggles anyday

  • Teppichbrand@feddit.de
    438·
    7 months ago

    VEGANISM!
    It’s great for your health, we’d solve like 25% of the climate catastrophe overnight and it redeems billions of our fellow earthlings from the unimaginable suffering we inflict on them 24/7.
    It’s a ridiculously obvious and easy step we should take as a species, yet even hardcore leftists turn into irrational idiots and go full Bullshit Bingo when you bring it up. Because they have become accustomed to a taste.

    • PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de
      7·
      7 months ago

      I try to tell people to ditch beef as a compromise. I’m flexetarian myself and try to avoid meat, but beef is by far the worst offender when it comes to climate.

      I think the average person doesn’t want to give up all meat dairy and eggs all in one go. Removing beef is highly effective and a first step into a more conscious diet.

      • blindsight@beehaw.org
        3·
        7 months ago

        Eggs are a super food, too. They’re cheap, delicious, and have dense nutrition. And, if you live anywhere close to rural, you can get farm-fresh eggs from ethically treated, well fed chickens for cheap.

        We minimize our meat consumption, but we eat lots of eggs, and I don’t see any ethical concerns with people’s backyard chicken coops.

    • LSNLDN@slrpnk.net
      4·
      7 months ago

      Vegan.bingo that’s amazing I’m gonna just refer to that for every one of those conversations from now on

    • june@lemmy.worldEnglish
      87·
      7 months ago

      I think it’s less veganism and more how noisy and evangelical the loudest vegans are.

      If you’d just said veganism, I’d agree, but you went on to emphatically tell us all the reasons why veganism is better. All legit, sure, but all the underlining gives it a particularly condescending tone. It’s not veganism that irritates me, it’s how condescending so many vegans become. Same camp as CrossFit for me. They’re both cultures I don’t really care to be a part of.

      • Teppichbrand@feddit.de
        104·
        7 months ago

        Eating animals is doing so much harm on a personal and global scale, yet people mostly choose to ignore it. So we get louder to confront your cognitive dissonance. I know it is annoying to you, I was annoyed too. But it’s necessary and it’s working. We’re not a cult, quite the opposite: Vegans act according to scientific facts. Do you want to have a heart attack? No. Do you like torturing animals? No! Do want to wreck our planet to the point our children won’t be able to live on it anymore? If course not. Veganism is not the only answer to all this, but no solution will suffice without us stopping to abuse animals. Think about that when you’re out in the supermarket next time. It feels good to actually live up to you ethical values.
        Also, #7 and #30, bingo!

        • june@lemmy.worldEnglish
          77·
          7 months ago

          Excellent example. Thanks.

          For the record, there’s no dissonance. I know well what I’m doing and recognize that I am choosing the easier option. Call me a villain, I don’t care. I live my life as best I can and to the best of my ability which you’ve made it clear is immoral and lesser than you.

          • Teppichbrand@feddit.de
            62·
            7 months ago

            So 10 years ago it was “STFU, you’re wrong”, now it’s “STFU, you’re right”? Changing diet is a journey, I didn’t go full vegan from one day to the other. I’m sure you’re not a villain and hope you change your mind sometime. There are many great plant-based foods waiting for you on the shelves.

  • june@lemmy.worldEnglish
    33·
    7 months ago

    haven’t seen it in the thread yet, but (most) GMOs. The foods and technology aren’t the problem, it’s a solution to ending hunger. It’s the corporate interests that squash competition that’s the problem.

  • UnfortunateDoorHinge@aussie.zone
    31·
    7 months ago

    Living in apartments.

    In a lot of cities and towns living in apartments is seen as something that young adults who are renting short term do, and definitely not families or older couples.

    Living in an apartment is considerably cheaper for my situation. I drive so much less, I pay for less power, and I have all this parkland around me.

    I’m a car guy and I don’t have a garage, that’s annoying, but I commute by escooter now and drive on the weekends. It’s much better.

  • TruthAintEasy@kbin.social
    377·
    7 months ago

    Oh lots of things

    Women
    Ethnicities
    LGTBQ+
    Drag Queens ( they are so entertaining)
    Inconvenient truths
    People who hang toilet paper the wong way
    The French (cowards? They won more battles than anyone and have mastered the art of standing up for themselves)
    Furries
    Pineapple on pizza ( its good, Ill die on this hill)
    Bronies
    Caillou - not, that whiney snot deserves it
    Marijuana
    Ned Flanders
    Bell bottoms
    Satan ( the word in acient hebrew that we translated to Satan first appears in the book of Job, and would more accuratly be rendered as accuser of prosecutor. In the whole bible satan only goes after 10 people, and only when god tells satan to do it. Half way through satan is like ‘um god? This guys like, broken now. Call it good?’ But that rapscallion god was like ‘no, he could still recover keep hitting him’ and all that because god ‘knew’ Job was the most loyal and devout of his followers and his narcisism just couldnt help but make a grand display of proving it)

    • N0x0n@lemmy.ml
      8·
      7 months ago

      People who hang toilet paper the wong way

      Wait, there’s a wrong way?

    • JackFrostNCola@lemmy.worldEnglish
      51·
      7 months ago

      The pinapple on pizza one is weird to me, do these people not enjoy the idea of contrasting and complimentary flavours?
      Savoury + sweet is a good combo and they dont seem to have a problem with tomato on pizza if they are getting technical over ‘fruit’ being an ingredient.

      • EssentialCoffee@midwest.socialEnglish
        2·
        7 months ago

        Well, I hate pineapple and putting it into things just kind of ruins the thing you’re adding it to anyway, so there’s that.

      • Cysioland@lemmygrad.ml
        0·
        7 months ago

        For me pineapple on pizza is just mid. There are better ways to do the salty and sweet thing (eg. local pizza place does oscypek + cranberry jam).

          • kurcatovium@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            That sounds absolutely terrible. But calling it almond & honey cake instead of pizza (and omitting the chicken) might solve the problem.

            • TruthAintEasy@kbin.social
              2·
              7 months ago

              It sounds awefull but tastes amazing. This was years ago when I was still moving furnature across the nation and drinking more booze than water. I wonder if I would like it sober tbh

    • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
      1·
      7 months ago

      Drag queens are wonderful. I finally got into Drag Race (just not a reality show viewer generally), and those queens will totally tug your heart strings if you just watch, and they’re real artists too. RIP Chi Chi DeVayne.

    • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
      47·
      7 months ago

      Bronies deserve it because they still haven’t denazified. Furries are a mixed bag with half being outright pedophiles and the rest being insanely cool people, with bronies it’s a guarantee they have at least one filly in their spank bank. But in either case if a nazi comes along trying to start shit with either i’m shutting that shit down right away because they don’t have the right to get on a high horse when they’re 20x worse.

      • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        7 months ago

        None of the furries I am friends with tolerate Nazis

        …anymore

        MOST of the furries I am friends with did not ever tolerate Nazis

        TBH I do know someone who has a “not checking if the character they’re posting porn of is underage” problem, and I’ve actually only seen them do it with human characters, though they have no special preference between humans and anthros.

        • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
          1·
          7 months ago

          I’m really hoping it’s something that they figure out over time, but it’s going to be a lot of work so probably nothing that will happen overnight.

          • Exocrinous@lemm.eeEnglish
            1·
            7 months ago

            I don’t really think the sexual violence rates in the furry community are higher than in the general community. There’s just more awareness of what consent is. I mean I could say “look at r/jailbait, straight people have a pedophile problem”, and I’d be right, but only because society has a pedophile problem.

            • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
              1·
              7 months ago

              That would be true if every single porn site was at or worse than r/jailbait, which to be honest does feel like the case at times.

  • ReCursing@kbin.social
    312·
    7 months ago

    Nickelback. I mean they’re not good but they’re not really bad either, just a complete nonevent. They don’t deserve the hate they get, they don’t really deserve anything

    • Lad@reddthat.com
      21·
      7 months ago

      “All the right reasons” is a solid album by them. Nothing groundbreaking or unique in terms of sound but it’s an enjoyable listen.

      • Susaga@ttrpg.networkEnglish
        9·
        7 months ago

        Holy fuck, that article is elitist. Half of the sections seem pointlessly mean, like they’re trying to dunk on them to win popularity points. One of them is just insulting Chad Kroeger for marrying Avril Lavigne, as if a 10+ year marriage is a bad thing. Some valid points buried in there, but the credibility is lost.

        • kurcatovium@lemm.eeEnglish
          05·
          7 months ago

          Some valid points? Some? Well, yeah, there are some that probably could be omitted, but most stands strong.

          Maybe I’m biased as I listen to more or less different genres, but there’s nothing wrong on hating on Nickelback.

          • Susaga@ttrpg.networkEnglish
            3·
            7 months ago

            Why would you hate someone for making music you don’t enjoy? Why hate someone for making money with a successful product? Why not just… Ignore them? You are under no obligation to like them, but there’s only around three arguments in there to actually hate them. There are more arguments in that article that boil down to “it’s successful, so it sucks” than valid criticism.

  • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
    302·
    7 months ago

    Socialism/Communism/Anarchism. Barely anyone who actually understands them and the theory supporting them hates them, but tons of people have been fed Red Scare propaganda on the matter.

      • PineRune@lemmy.world
        61·
        7 months ago

        I think most real-life examples have been plagued by corruption to the point that they fall into a different category altogether.

        • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
          6·
          7 months ago

          Historical examples, like Revolutionary Catalonia for Anarchism, and the USSR, Cuba, Maoist China, Vietnam, etc. for Marxism-Leninism, absolutely count as Socialist and should be learned from, both the good and bad.

          If you dismiss them as “not real Socialism,” you fail to learn from what did work in those instances, like literacy rates and life expectancy skyrocketing. If you dismiss the bad, you make the equal mistake of not accounting for the flaws in systems like Soviet Democracy, which resulted in a corrupt Politburo with outsized power.

          Study them in detail and find what to take and what to leave behind.

      • OurToothbrush@lemmy.ml
        52·
        7 months ago

        Cuba, a poor blockaded small island nation, has a higher life expectancy than the global hegemon and richest nation ever

        The USSR went from a monarchist backwater to a industrial society, defeating the nazis and sending the first satellite into space, in the span of 40 years.

        China, under socialism, is now on track to shatter US hegemony through the power of socialist economic management and mutually beneficial cooperation.